Monday, January 30, 2006

Outrage of the Week - McLaren on Homosexuality

If the link below doesn't demonstrate to Bible-believing evangelicals that Brian McLaren (The Emergent Church) advocates very, very bad theology, I don't know what will. And yet, we have some pastors at heretofore solid evangelical churches insisting that McLaren is a strong leader who deserves support.

Might as well run the Word of God through a shredder.


Edited to add:

At the Leadership Journal blog area, Brian has posted a response to the heat he has been catching on this issue. I am afraid his answer is not satisfactory, but is rather more of the "unpacking" and "deconstruction" we have come to expect.

This issue really goes beyond Brian, his writings, and those of other EC leaders. I begin to think we'd accomplish more if we'd focus less on personalities such as Brian and go to the issue at hand. That issue is ultimately our view of the Word of God. Do we have a high view of Scripture or a low view of Scripture? Is Scripture inspired by God or isn't it? Is it our only rule for faith and practice, or do we give credence to other extra-biblical sources? If Scripture is not reliable or authoritative, then why bother with this thing we call Christianity at all? One could follow the the Bhagavad Gita, the Baha'i Scriptures or even the Aquarian Conspiracy and make it just fine. Or in true relativist fashion, say that all are equally valid.

Gracie Slick, has your hookah-smoking caterpillar been making the rounds at theological conferences again?


crownring said...

Having read McLaren's column, I will say I an disturbed by it. McLaren uses all the right buzz words (still small voice, Holy Spirit, etc.), but in the end he says absolutely nothing of substance. He does not address the fact that this agnostic couple is only looking for for a place to stage a wedding where their gay fathers would not be unwelcome. He does not address the question of whether the Church/pastors should be in the business of solemnizing/blessing the marriages of non-believers. He does not bring up the question of Biblical accountability. In spite of his denials to the contrary, tickling the ears of his readers IS exactly what McLaren is doing.

SolaMeanie said...


He actually goes beyond that, albeit subtly. Did you see him say that he "doesn't know what to think" about the issue? To arrive at that conclusion (a curious one for a pastor), he had to throw out numerous Scriptures. People like this ultimately don't give a rat's whoop about the Bible except to pay lip service to it or quote it when convenient.

I like what another commentator said recently. Salt that has lost it's savor..not even good enough for the manure pile.

crownring said...

Having read Dr. Driscoll's response to Brian McLaren's article, I must say I'm in almost complete agreement with Driscoll. While I won't go so far as to say the magazine Christianity Today has gone apostate without further study of the evidence, it does seem to be heading that way.

One of the things that ticked me off about McLaren's article is the following statement.

“Even if we’re convinced that all homosexual behavior is always sinful (which we are—RG), we still want to treat gay and lesbian people with more dignity, gentleness, and respect than our colleagues do.”

I'd just like to know to whom McLaren was refering ......apostate lunatics like Fred Phelps or non-EC pastors? I have an extreme distaste for this kind of subtly venomous ennuendo, which appears to be geared towards casting suspicion on anyone who does not share McLaren's opinions. In truth, I consider it a rather cowardly smear tactic, worthy only of the friends of The Destroyer, not that of a true disciple of Christ. The Apostle Paul exhorts us to be wise as serpents, but as harmless as doves, but I see neither wisdom or gentleness in McLaren's statement, but hubris trying to disguise itself as both.

SolaMeanie said...

You hit the nail on the head (although it's Gleason in this case, not Driscoll :)

This kind of smugness is in between the lines, as usual. McLaren and his fellow ECers often get praised for their "niceness" but when you look at what they are really saying about conservative evangelicals, it's not far short of a kick in the groin.

I am glad this is all getting out in the open so people can see the EC for what it is.

crownring said...

I would have left this comment on the Christianity Today site as well, but I never discovered how one could do so.

BTW, you are correct, we need to act against the message rather than the messenger. McLaren may look like the enemy, but our spiritual enemies aren't flesh and blood, it's the powers and principalities we don't see whom are the real enemies. We need to pray for McLaren and pray against the unseen that has made him its mouthpiece.

BTW, sorry about the mixup about Gleason and Driscoll. I seem to have trouble keeping the right names with the right people.

SolaMeanie said...

I think you have to keep scrolling until you come to the comment section. It's tedious!

Very true about our spiritual enemies. Of course, McLaren will continue to get whacked as long as he keeps saying/writing such imbicilic things, but the one really enjoying this is Satan. I imagine nothing pleases him more than when someone who bills himself as a pastor treats God's Word like Rorshach blots.

crownring said...

Sola, you might want to to do some rethinking about Dr. Driscoll. I was looking thorugh the comments and found Driscoll praising McLaren's article. It would appear Driscoll's ears have been tickled. ):(

I liked the comment of the reader who said trying to figure out what McLaren believes is like trying to nail Jello to a wall. So true! I never did find a way to leave a comment of my own, so I'm doubly glad there were others who saw the same things I did and left their own comments.

SolaMeanie said...

Where did you see this? The CT/Leadership Journal site? It would be something for Driscoll to whack McLaren and then praise his comments. Very odd. Send me a link if possible.

Joe B. Whitchurch said...

February has a lot of blogs talking about true love, the meaning of marriage and family and such. A couple semesters ago I had a conversation with a female graduate student who was very happy
with her church because they had communicated to her that if two adult persons loved each other (no other qualifiers) it was OK for them to 'hook up'. And she and her boyfriend were hooked up without being married. The conversation and the truth of Scripture shared in that conversation led me to compose this song. Hope you enjoy it and appreciate some variously stated, creation ordinance truth. Click for video and song. Streams fast but the content is strong, placed in a public university context, and appropriate in that context. Consider it a Valentine present maybe for some of these confused ones critiqued by Joel the Meanie herein. Smile. Click to enjoy.

SolaMeanie said...

Thanks, Joe. Kevin went through something similar with a young couple he was counseling. They were involved in a popular Illinois college ministry, but insisted they had carte blanche to fornicate at will.

We're going to be seeing more of this nonsense. We've got some guys arguing that fornication really doesn't mean fornication, and that the Scriptures aren't clear on this subject. Isn't it funny how God is such an incompetent communicator that people can't ascertain His meaning.