Sunday, November 25, 2007

Huckabee Makes a Mistake

I first got wind of the event described in this Christian Post story about a week ago. Now it's been picked up by WorldNetDaily, and I am very, very concerned.

What am I talking about? Word that Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee hitching to the Kenneth Copeland bandwagon in terms of having Copeland take a high-profile spotlight in pitching his campaign. Note Governor Huckabee's glowing praise of Copeland and his wife, Gloria. In terms of politics, I can't believe that an astute politician would want to hitch his wagon to someone under investigation by U.S. Senator Charles Grassley for his use of donor finances. Yes, innocent until proven guilty, and believe me, I really don't relish the idea of the government sticking its nose in church business. However, some of these televangelists have brought it on themselves. Take a look at Richard Roberts' recent resignation at ORU. It appears the chickens finally came home to roost.

Aside from politics, Kenneth Copeland's theology is horrendous, and I would expect a Southern Baptist to know better. I'm not just talking about minor theological differences, either. Copeland teaches the "Jesus Died Spiritually" doctrine, and has made a whole host of statements through the years that are heretical, to put it mildly. This isn't an anti-charismatic/Pentecostal thing either. Traditional Pentecostals rejected Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Hagin's "latter rain" doctrines long ago.

I am seriously troubled by this, and have to rethink my earlier endorsement of Mike Huckabee. I have yet to hear a really good explanation.

11 comments:

lee n. field said...

Eeeeuuuuuuuu.

Randy said...
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Randy said...

Joel,

Copeland seems to me as being a wolf in sheep's clothing. All that sounds so charming but very dangerous. His 'Jesus Died Spiritually' heresy is as close as the "we are little Gods" diatribe he espouses.

Copeland has gone so far as to say that "God was the biggest failure there ever was." Imagine that. Well, Kenny makes God look good in the end though. So, that evens the score. Not!

I'm surprised that Huckabee could be so remiss in aligning himself with the outwardly heretical Copeland. Strike one!

Randy

IndweltDaughter said...

I've never actually heard of Copeland, and I don't really get into politics much, but I have to agree that this is disturbing. "Prosperity Preaching" has never sat well with me.

Can I ask, what exactly does Copeland claim in his "Jesus Died Spiritually" doctrine? And how can a Southern Baptist actually be proud to align themselves with someone who claims that "God was the biggest failure who ever was," and still claim to hold true to their own beliefs? In my opinion, the financial integrity of the Copelands is the least of Huckabee's problems.

~Amanda

SolaMeanie said...

Basically, the JDS doctrine is that Satan personally tortured Jesus three days and three nights in Hell. They claim that Jesus actually died spiritually in the same sense that unbelievers are spiritually dead. In essence, it gives Satan a role in our salvation. It's a pretty disgusting teaching, but a lot of people have bought it hook, line and sinker. The JDS teaching isn't the only area where Copeland has gone awry.

crownring said...

Hi Sola,

I think it's a dangerous precedent when politicans align themselves with religious ministries or the reverse. When Pat Robertson made the announcement that he was supporting Rudy Guiliani, I was totally incredulous. When John McCain became buddy-buddy with the late Jerry Falwell, I took a very deep breath and wondered which of the two (if not both) had lost his mind. Whenever a politican (a.k.a. the world) openly comes courting the Church, you can be sure trouble is around the corner.

SolaMeanie said...

I have to agree, crownring. There's always a danger in it. We as Christian citizens should be involved, however when high-profile Christian leaders begin thinking of themselves as "kingmakers," you can see where that leads.

crownring said...

Hi Sola,

There is also another side to this that might not be readily apparent. Some religious leaders may think to ally themselves with politicans in order to protect their particular form of religious expression. Since Copeland's "gospel" has been rejected by most of mainstream Christianity, he may be looking for political protection. Of course, this is unbiblical, but if Copeland is indeed heretical, it's not surprising for him to look for cover.

Randy said...

Hi Indweltdaughter,

Copeland's comments came from a website that printed all his various 'errors.' That's where the quote came from. I'll try to find the website and forward it on to you. It's sad that such heretical teaching is going on. But, then again, we are in a time where error is running rampant.

Randy

Randy said...

Indweltdaughter,

Here's the quote verbatim:

"I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is...The biggest one in the whole Bible is God...I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least - that's a big loss, man....Now, the reason you don't think of God as a failure is He never said He's a failure. And you're not a failure till you say you're one." (Ken Copeland, Audio-Clip "Christianity in Crisis," Hank Hanegraaff)

You can find this on the site:
http://www.forgottenword.org/copeland.html

Hope this helps!

Randy

IndweltDaughter said...

Hi Randy and Sola,

Thank you both very much, and yes, my questions are answered now. But now I'm in even greater shock and disgust. Amazing how Satan can use people with the very Word of God to turn people away from God. It's very sad. May the end not be too far away!

~Amanda