Wednesday, December 12, 2007

Yes, They Really Do Believe That Way!

Limited time today for a post, but I want to highlight something in view of the mainstream press hyperventilating over Mike Huckabee's question about Mormon beliefs. Huckabee is quoted as asking, "Don't Mormons believe Jesus and the devil are brothers?" Since then, a kerfuffle has started, with Mormon spokespeople saying such questions are a "smear" against their faith.

As usual, history has to intervene and people have to do their homework. Mormonism does indeed teach that Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer. Just read their material. It really doesn't matter what the 1992 Mormonism encyclopedia says. To find out what Mormons believe, you must read their "Scriptures." These include the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price.

Again, just so we're clear. The Constitution does not permit religious tests for office. Mormons have the right to believe what they wish. But when Mormonism tries to obfuscate what they truly believe and accuse orthodox Christians of smearing them, we have to speak up and set the record straight.

Mormons need to fess up and admit what they teach. Otherwise, they risk being accused of lying and subterfuge.

UPDATE THURSDAY 12/13/01:

As requested by commenter Joe Whitchurch, here is a link to a Politico story on this situation. Note the comments below the post. Very enlightening!

8 comments:

Randy said...

Joel,

Years ago I read a statement that always stuck with me. It said, "If you roll a bowling ball down a dark alley, and you hear something scream, you know you hit something!" That bodes well with the Mormon church. Anyone, and that includes their own hierachy would have to admit their teachings say that Jesus and Lucifer were spirit brothers. So, if someone is 'screaming', you know that it hit too close to home.

Randy

Starting To Learn said...

The fact that Huckabee posed a question as if he didn't know the answer, seems to indicate that he was being very dishonest in his statement. Mormon theology is out in the open for anyone to read at sites like lds.org.

At best, if as an educated, ordained Baptist Minister and presidential candidate he actually didn't know anything about the beliefs of his main opponent, he seems to be someone who is seriously uninformed.

SolaMeanie said...

Yes, STL..that is indeed troubling.

Joe B. Whitchurch said...

Have you ever not wanted to go somewhere in a conversation where you had more information than you wanted to let on? And then to see if the person who was pushing you for information was asking because he was sympathetic and in the know. And then you sent out a trial balloon question like Columbo the detective which left you plausable deniability? If not, you've never held political office, been in a debate, or been interviewed by the media.

Joel, you should post that web link with the article because in the comments there are several by a 'GOP Latina' which are VERY informative and helpful. LOL. Mike Huckabee may have done more for counter-cult ministry by the way he handled this than the writings of lots of counter-cult apologists. Just look how people are checking their info now.

Also the NY Times would have feigned the same question and likely with even more boldness if Romney gets the nomination. Now there's the duplicity in my view.

SolaMeanie said...

Joe,

Consider it done. The link is now at the bottom of the original post.

Joe B. Whitchurch said...

Hindsight is always closer to 20-20 vision. Mike should have said, "I thought I made it clear that I do not want to discuss another persons religion in the context of political discussions of issues. Is there a reason why you appear to be wanting me to go there when I've been telling you repeatedly I do not want to go there?" Or something like this.

To say now "I don't know that much about LDS" could be accurate, (LOL) depending on what "that much" means. LOL. Like 'is - is'. It could simply mean he's not been in the temple for swearing in the oaths or never worn the undergarments, yada yada. LOL. This guy is good. Do you like Romney better? Talk about slick! Or Thompson or Hunter or what/who/why? Rom. 3:23 is true of all of us.

Thanks for posting that link Joel.

SolaMeanie said...

There is another way to look at Huckabee's statement that "he didn't know that much about it." It could have been disengenousness. I hope not. Huckabee leans toward more of a "grace" approach rather than confrontational, but I would hope any SBC pastor worth his salt would at least know important elements of Mormonism.

I will give him the benefit of the doubt, because when one is in a tense interview situation, you can say things off the cuff and there is no "revise and extend" to your remarks.

crownring said...

Sigh........sadly, no matter the number of candidates we have to choose from, it's going to come down to the same thing as always. Each person who bothers to vote is going to decide on and vote for the candidate he/she believes represents the lesser/least of evils.

Democracy is a wretched form of government. Unfortunately every other form of government that man has devised is even worse.