Tuesday, October 14, 2008

Obama and Marx: Need I Say More?

Dialogue between Barack Obama and a plumber:

PLUMBER: Why are you going to raise my taxes?"
OBAMA: "We want to spread the wealth around a little."


From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. (redistribution of wealth)

I don't have time to give lessons on communism, the Communist Manifesto or Marxism. I can say this quickly enough. I have personally visited former communist countries where Marx's principles were lived out in all their oppressive glory. They gain power by playing on class warfare and demagoguery. Then, after they take power, the people know nothing but oppression and poverty. Communism doesn't work.

Do we really, really want that here?


Anonymous said...

Those Marxists don't like guns either.

Phil Perkins said...

We're going Baroke Obamarx.

Palm boy said...

I think he needs a beard, and that would round out the picture.

Solameanie said...

It would be comical if it wasn't so deadly serious. This country is about to make a mistake of historic proportions. Talk about the weeping prophet not being heard. . . .

Robert said...

You might consider finding the time to take a lesson in communism. Then take one in the economics of Obama. You seem to understand neither. "Increasing" the tax rate is actually allowing the lapse of the temporary tax reductions given to the top 2% of Americans under Bush. Do any of your readers have an annual taxable income of over $250k? If so they might be affected by the lapse of the tax benefits initiated under Bush. I will be, but I'm ok with that because even with the taxes I am a heck of a lot better off and enjoy a heck of a lot more freedom of choice than most folks earning $35k.

As for "redistribution," welfare is welfare, it keeps a small number of unemployed people (single mothers and their kids, the elderly, and yes, some bums) from starving. And it is a minuscule part of the national budget. Taxes also pay for the building of roads, hospitals, energy transmission lines, health science research, police forces, education, and 100s of billions (over 35% of our national budget) on defense.

Who is more able to pay for it, those making less than $250k or those making more than $250k? No one says you have to vote in your own best interest, but at least we should be informed about the harm and the benefit we create through our choices.

Solameanie said...


I understand both quite well, despite your efforts to obfuscate things. Aside from studying Marxist and socialist philosophy, I've been to former communist countries and have spoken with people who lived under it, and who have relatives who died under it. Have you?

A tax increase is a tax increase. What happens when you let the cut lapse? The tax goes back up, doesn't it? I don't make anywhere near $250,000, but I know that even that well-seeming amount of money doesn't go as far as it used to, especially if you want to put kids through school or have employees to pay. In addition, basic economics tells you that you don't raise taxes in a recession.

I think you need to do a little more research yourself, beginning with Black Liberation Theology and its Marxist roots.