Saturday, December 06, 2008

From the Democrats' Founding Father . . .


Thanks to my friend Kevin, who sent the following to me this morning.

The quotes below are from none other than the late, great Thomas Jefferson. The Democrats of today like to claim him as a founding father. Well, I think they need to listen to him again. Unfortunately for the Dems, I think he'd wear an "R" behind his name he were alive today.

When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall
become as corrupt as Europe.

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle
which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too
much government.

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms
is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
patriots and tyrants.

To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he
disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.


In light of the present financial crisis, it's interesting to read what
Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

4 comments:

Stan McCullars said...

Are we certain that Jefferson died?

Randy said...

Sola,

Remember Jefferson said,

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

And...tyrants. That's the end of the phrase. Obviously the Brits were tyrants when they fled to this new land. I wonder, do we need modern day tyrants?

Plus, slavery was common and we drove out the native Americans. Yes, I'm thankful for America but not all of our past was good. However, it sure beats anything that is going on anywhere else in the world. JHMO.

Hope you are well Joel,

Randy

IntelligentDecline said...

Actually, at least two of these quotations are falsely attributed to Thomas Jefferson. The following links point to The Jefferson Encyclopedia, published by The Thomas Jefferson Foundation (monticello.org):

The democracy will cease to exist ...

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent ...

I've yet to find an original source for your last quote either, and have come to the conclusion that it is suspect.

Unsourced apocryphal quotations attributed to many of The Nation's Founders get placed into web-based quote databases, and then propagated. thinkexist.com and brainyquote.com are two common sites that do this. In thinkexist.com's defense, they at least are willing to remove a quotation from their database, when it can be shown to be false.

cheers

Solameanie said...

Thanks for the heads up on that. Interesting that there was a meta discussion on apocryphal statements over at TeamPyro this past week.

Even so, I think the sentiment expressed in these statements are ones that would be shared by most of the Founding Fathers, even if they didn't say those specific quotes. You can get a gist of their mindset in other writings, most notably the Declaration and Constitution. They would be outraged if they were alive today to see how the Constitution has been misinterpreted and/or ignored in recent years.